Rethinking the Economics of Care

In the premiere episode of Margin of Care Season 2, Kirk Czonstka sits down with Chris Hogan, a veteran healthcare economist and former advisor to major self-funded employers. Together, they unpack why the economics of employer-sponsored care are fundamentally broken—and what it would actually take to fix them. Chris brings a rare combination of academic rigor and real-world experience to the conversation, challenging conventional wisdom about what drives costs and why value-based care has failed to deliver on its promise.